Friday, October 12, 2012

Toilet Training Can Kiss My...

I should have known two things:
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  1. That H wouldn't take to using the toilet as easily as J did. They are very different boys and H does like to stand out from his big brother. 
  2. That posting about how good he was doing would jinx it. That it would lead to certain doom. Shit covered doom.
There are a couple of problems we've encountered:
  1. My refusal to be a quitter. We've started this now and we are not stopping, there is no going back, he WILL be toilet trained.
  2. H's stubbornness and his desire to do things his own way in his own time.
*Sigh*

I'm surprised by how much hair I have. You'd think that with this great toilet training debacle it all would have fallen about by now. Good genes I guess. Thanks Mum.

A couple of weeks ago I was at the Post Office. I'd underestimated the size of the satchel that I needed to send some crap I'd sold on ebay, so I was standing there having a stress and trying to punch these items down into the satchel. Not a quitter, you see. 

Then it hit me. It wafted up, invading my nostrils like an ant colony does a picnic. The smell of H. Correction, the stench of H. Do you find that? That your children's excrement each has its own recognisable smell?

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I looked at him, he looked at me, his puppy dog eyes silently begging for forgiveness. I issued a stern whisper, trying hard to not lose my shit. One of us had already done that.

"Stand next to the pram and DO NOT MOVE."

I know, I know, all the books say that you should never get angry or punish them, but come on guys, it's easier said than done. When we walked out to the car I decided to try some reverse psychology.

"Well, I have nothing here to clean you because poo isn't supposed to go in your pants, so you can't get in my car..." I said as I walked away from him. "You can't sit in your seat with poo in your pants, I'll have to go home and get you some new pants and undies. I'll come back and clean you up."

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Mummy's boy xx
I walked towards the drivers door expecting him to follow and yell at me. I opened the door and there was silence. I stopped and waited... nothing. I walked back to the rear of the car and there he was, standing there with his hands clasped in front of him.

"What are you going to do?" I asked him.

"I just wait here..." He responded glumly.

Epic. Parenting. Fail. 

I dropped to my knees, wrapped my arms around him and begged for his forgiveness. "I would never leave you!" I declared, no doubt confusing the poor 2 1/2 year old with my mixed messages. He smiled, and I'm not sure if I should interpret that as happiness that he wasn't in trouble, or smugness that he'd just guilt tripped me? I fear it's the latter. He is the master manipulator after all.

I love this kid, I really do, but I'm sure he was born to push my buttons.

The boys go to childcare 2 days a week, we wanted some continuity while I was on leave so they weren't too thrown out when I go back to work again. I was talking to the carer about H and his refusal to poo in the toilet. She gave me the "It's very normal" talk and I smiled and nodded. I don't care if it's normal, I'm tired of cleaning shitty undies.

*This is the post that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friends. Some people started reading it not knowing what it was, and they'll continue reading it forever just because this is the post that never ends...*

You can keep the "Maybe he's not ready!" comments to yourself as well, because he's now adamant that he is a big boy who doesn't wear nappies, so there's no going back. So anyway the carer suggested I relax about it and not put too much pressure on him. Ok, then can you come and clean his undies every day? 

When he's with her, she puts a pull-up on him after morning tea, he goes and hides to do his poo, then she puts his undies back on. Do you think he's that regular at home? No friggin way. I have even had him sitting on either the toilet or the potty for an ENTIRE day (no exaggeration) and nothing. He just didn't poo at all.

Gorgeous boyAnd in this house, we are not above bribery. In fact, we love it. So we have tried to bribe the shit out of him (literally) and although the bribes are AWESOME and he gets crazy excited and yells at us "YEAH! I POO IN TOILET!"... It doesn't happen.

I'm telling you, 'Toilet Training Boot Camp'. It's my genius business idea. I should trademark that shit. I'd make millions.

I have a friend who started toilet training both of her girls at 6 months of age... honey, if you're reading this, hit me up with the deets already! Tell me your method! HELP ME!! I'll be damned if I have to go through this again with A.

So, dear readers, has your child struggled with toilet training? Please give me all of the answers!

53 comments:

  1. I have not been through this and am a few years off but holy heck you made me laugh a bit with this. And i'm sorry if its not meant to be funny, but you are one witty lady!
    I have no words of wisdom or anything for you. Hope the shit hits the pot soon xx

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    1. Hahaha shit hits pot, well done! x

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  2. Dude, you're making me more and more worried about this whole toilet training shit (pun so obviously intended!). Can I send her away for someone else to do it? Can I send her to you? You will be an expert at cleaning up shit by the time it's Mia's turn, you could do both girls at the same time. They can encourage one another and learn the age old ritual of going to the bathroom with their friends from the very start. Ok? Deal!

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    1. I'm taking J's advice and starting A now, so if you want them going together then get on it LOL

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  3. Whilst I know that Lily was much quicker than Tara.. beyond that the details are really blurry. Having laughed my way through your post about poor H I am pretty sure my subconscious has blocked the traumatic process! Altough one event with Tara will be forever burned in my my mind which involved one tiny pair of undies, red leggings and a shit load of shit right down to her shoes. Let's just say lucky it was summer because she had to be hosed down. And I threw everything away including shoes.
    CB xx

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    1. LOL, I hope my recent weeks become blurry memories. Hosed! You evil mother ;-) xx

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  4. Oh the joys! I have so many poo stories.. and in particular I have a constipated 2 yr old, going on a year.. And that truly sucks. Think suppositories and toddler...

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    1. I haven't had a constipated toddler but I have had a constipated 6 month old before and that was HARD work, you poor thing. Hope it sorts itself out soon x

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  5. I have no answers. Izzy struggled with the poo part,the prettiest little girls undies are so not cute when they are full of poo.thankfully she is trained now. Two days ago while in the checkout line we had to dash with summer in tow in the pram and I had her by the legs weeing out the back of the supermarket, so classy! I hope he clicks soon, it took 5 months with Izzy. I loosely followed the TT in 3 days thingy. Pfft!! 3 days my arse. The basic tips did help though.

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    1. Lol 3 days - no friggin way! And also lol about the wee out the back of the supermarket, shame, shame, shame!

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  6. I am toilet training my 2nd boy. My first child was terrible. The wee part was fine. I changed shitty undies for about 9-10 months everyday before he fiinally was able to poo in the loo. And he decided to do that himself. I hate toilet training, that's probably why it's so hard. I have no advice. Just wanted you to know we have all been there. Good luck x

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    1. OMG 9-10 months you poor thing! I hope it doesn't take my little guy that long!

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  7. I have no answers, due mostly to the fact that TheGamer and I are lazy Dex was very, very ready by the time we got around to TT and you know how it went for us.

    Poor Dex had to accidents this week though - one at kindy (just wee) which was totally the carers fault (who forgets to take a toilet training 2 year old to the toilet before sleep time, seriously!) and one where he was running around at mums nudie and she saw him bolt from the back of the garden into the house but he was too late and by the time she caught up with him he was trying to climb onto the toilet with poo all down his legs... at least he didn't copy my nephew (4) who was wearing bunny ears, went and got a carrot out of the fridge and then held it in his mouth while he made like a bunny in the garden and deposited a giant 'bunny poo'. Hysterical but only funny because it's not my kid doing it!

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    1. Hahaha too funny! But you know what? I'm at the point where I would rather him poo in the garden as a rabbit than in his undies, at least then I could pick it up with the pooper scooper lol
      Thanks Kyla x

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  8. I'm currently in the same boat. It is beyond frustrating! I really don't even know what to do at this point. Bribery isn't even working anymore. If I have to clean up a puddle of pee one more time I might go nuts!
    Found you & following through blog hop! LOVE your blog!
    http://army-wife-mommy-life.blogspot.com

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    1. Thanks for stopping by! Popping over to ready your post x

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  9. I'm sorry, I have no advice, at all. My kids were really easy, which is probably not what you want to hear right now.
    You could just stop feeing him? ;)

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  10. Bribery is working a treat at Chez 'Abulous. The going rate is one lolly for a wee and two lollies for a poop. ( One for a #1 and two for a #2).

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  11. Oh dear Lord you've made me laugh! I know how frustrating it can be and luckily I'm well over that phase! With Sunny I cracked it like you did and just told her that she couldn't wear nappies at preschool (which is true - they need to be fully toilet trained). Well I did all the bloody pleading and bribery stuff to no avail and as soon as I said that Sunny pulled her pants down, ripped her own nappy off and the rest is history!

    Easy!

    I would definatley recommend getting rid of the friggen pull ups! They only confused Sunny and she learnt all too quick that the damn thing was a nappy in disguise!

    All I can say is persist... One day soon you'll be posting something similar about your baby girl! Lol...

    Sophie xo

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    1. I'm pleased to report that we've had some success today! And I totally agree, pull ups have to go. Starting babygirl sooner rather than later!
      Thanks Sophie x

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  12. Um yeah! She was crapping her pants for the last 2 months. I was secretly throwing the undies out bc I didn't want to clean that shit! Turns out my husband was secretly flushing the underwear- FLUSHING (WTF?! right?). Needless to say buying underwear got expensive. She just started pooping in the toilet this week. Don't know why, don't care. Just cross your fingers for me. Btw, found you at the blog hop.

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    1. Hahaha, flushing the undies, LOVE IT! Hilarious. Thanks for stopping by x

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  13. Oh, I've just come out of that phase with my 3 year old. I called "toilet trained" about 9 months ago but we still have near misses (and sometimes not misses). Even after doing it twice, I still have no idea what works and what doesn't. Okay, so that's not entirely true. 1 lolly for a wee, 2 lollies for a poo. That works. Why do we put ourselves through this? I can't believe I'll have to do it again...

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    1. Just bought some lollies today :)
      I think every child is different, so it's hard to say what 'works' I guess
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  14. Oh, man. I feel your pain. Hell, I can even smell it.... Those were the days....

    My daughter refused. RE-FUSED. To sit on a potty. She wanted to go from nappies to toilet and nought in between. It was tedious. There were many tears. Mostly from me. But she barely had one accident because of it (she just tt'd much much later than I thought she was "ready"... she was about 3.5, I think, I can't remember, I've blocked those last months in nappies right out of my memory because it became a bloody battle of wills).

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    1. I hope I manage to block it from my memory! I wouldn't mind if he'd go straight to the toilet, otherwise it seems a double-up, train to use potty then train to use toilet. I hope I don't have to wait til 3.5 though, that's a year away!

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  15. My wife is still laughing about this one, then crying, then laughing. Little miss 2.5yo needs to be trained soon and we have no idea what to do. My daughter has a 2 second attention span so I have no idea how to get her to sit on a toilet until she wees.

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    1. Blackmail. Sing. Read books. Dance. WHATEVER IT TAKES!

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  16. Oh man.
    How long can I keep Toddler C in diapers?
    True, I am tired of spending money on nappies and there are the landfills to think about and all that...but I just cannot ever imagine having enough determination and energy to tackle toilet training.

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    1. I always dreaded it. But at some point we just have to bite the bullet and do it! The dream of no more nappies is the carrot in my sights :)

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  17. Stopping by from the Blog Hop! It does get better! My youngest was incredibly stubborn and was 3, maybe 3 1/2, when we finally were daytime potty trained. He still wears pull ups at night. I went through lots of different bribery tactics to get him to sit on the potty. If you want, here's my blog post about my potty training journey :) I hope it helps! http://www.dailymesses.com/2012/08/the-road-to-big-boy-underwear-potty.html

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    1. Ooh thanks for the reference to your post! I'll have a read tonight x

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  18. Hi there ~ Stopping by from the Flash Blog Friday hop...
    This post had me rolling on the floor. I have written several posts about the subject myself.

    Reagan just finished potty training ~ don't hate me ... she just turned two but we started early because she showed signs of being ready. I thought I was going to die! We did potty charts, stickers, bribery...you name it.

    What worked? A clear plastic cup on the back of the toilet full of peanut M&M's. Within a week she was potty trained!

    Following you via twitter/facebook.

    Good luck!
    Lanaya
    www.raising-reagan.com
    (I'm not on blogger ~ sorry about no reply if it shows up)

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    1. Hi! Thanks for stopping by :)
      I laughed at the M&Ms on the back of the toilet, very funny! You're lucky to have her done by 2, well done.
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  19. Oh huny...I feel for you! Now as I believe it was I that you mentioned in your blog I thought I would share my thoughts on potty training! For all your lovely readers I'll share a little of my background story...I have a little girl Isla who has been toilet trained from 18 months and night trained since around 23 months (which I put down to her habit of having to take a bottle of water to bed with her) and I have an 8 month little girl Eden who will HOPEFULLY follow in her big sissy's footsteps!
    Now my hot tips...
    1. It comes down to the potty you select! You can't go past the 'Roger Armstrong' potty chair...its made from a durable, easy to clean plastic, has a high back, a pot cover and a removable tray. So in essence it can also be used as a little chair to snack at or take with you on the run. It costs about $65 but is WELL worth it. I've never heard anyone complain about it!
    2. Consistency and starting early. My girls have been put on the pot from the time they could sit comfortably by themselves so around 6-7 months. I've been criticised for it and heard all the comments like "Don't you have a life?" etc but it's worked for me and for everyone who has done the same. My 8 month old wakes in the morning has a breastfeed, if she's really unhappy, and then sits on the pot. She sits while we play/watch tv etc. If she hasn't done anything yet and is happy to still sit, she has her weetbix on there too. Then Isla and I go nuts in excitement for her when the jobs done..and I show her what's in the pot! Throughout the day, every couple of hours, but definitely before and after sleeps, she sits on the pot. It all about getting them used to sitting on there so when they're older and able to get off they know that all they have to do is a wee or poo and off they can go. Isla used to tear through the house at 11 months yelling 'pot, pot' and get the job done. I never (maybe 1 or 2 accidents) changed a shitty nappy of hers from around the 11 month mark. She just refused to poop in her nappy.
    Although we were diligent about it, it never ruled our lives either. I would take the pot on long trips away and holidays (yes that was I with the toddler on a pot on the side of the M7) and at least it was always there as an option. As for shopping trips etc, if she didn't want to use the 'big girl' toilet then she at least understood that although she was whizzing in her nappy it wasn't where it should go! Although I would ask her to hold it if she could!

    Now I think that's about all I have to say on the matter...I know every child is different and I appreciate everyone's circumstances so I'm not a preacher but I would just love for everyone else's 'toilet' journey to be as simple as ours!

    My last tip is to go and buy Miss A a 'Roger Armstrong' potty chair and get her on it ASAP!!
    I would buy her one myself if it wasn't such a shitty (excuse the pun) gift idea!
    Lots of luck and love,
    J X
    P.s...I am in NO way affiliated with Roger Armstrong products or branding!

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    1. This comment has inspired another post ;-) Thanks for the hot tips, I'll be implementing & reporting back soon xx

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  20. Oh my...I am preparing myself to potty train the #5. While one would think I would have a clue as to what I am doing. I can admit that I don't. I pretty much let them call the shots and just pray that they figure it out before I lose my mind. So far it seems to work, all the others use the pot... Great post and thanks for linking up at the TGIF Blog Hop!

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    1. Number 5?! You should be a pro by now! Xx

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  21. Have you heard of this thing where kids never wear nappies and just learn from birth how to control their bladders. it's such an alien concept, but apparently it works. i've just completed week one of potty training which is luckily going quite smoothly, apart from the poos:-/
    http://myfroley.blogspot.com

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    1. I have! Elimination Communication, there are some awesome video's on YouTube about it. I think it's really interesting, but I don't have the desire to try it. Hope your potty training goes well :) Thanks for stopping by x

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  22. You just made me look like a mad woman sitting at my work computer, laughing uncontrollably!
    Gees you have a way with words! Absolutely love that one! When I become a mother I'm going to think of you all the time!

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    1. Haha, your comments are what drives me to keep writing Tara, thank you! xx

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    2. Seriously but.....I love it - Bloody crack up!

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  23. Sorry - I have nothing ! We had one go at TT K and it didn't work - then we left it for a couple of weeks (months? - who knows or can remember) - and she was as good as gold with it - sorry !
    Have a great poo in the pants free day !
    Me

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    1. "Have a great poo in the pants free day!" LOVE IT! Hahaha. Thank you xx

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  24. This reminds me of my biggest parenting fail that I intend to blog about, but am afraid of sounding like a horrible parent. This encourages me! My son had the same sort of reaction that yours did. I love kids...most of the time.

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  25. OMG I am dreading this stage. Wishing you all the best - I know nothing! Lol

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  26. I was very lucky that I didn't have such poo issues. What worked were Smarties. Smarties when you poo in the toilet. But pooing in the pants is so very normal. I have heard it can take some kids weeks, even longer... sorry to say... but just wanted to reassure you a little. Hang in there and keep at it... he will get it ... eventually xxx

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  27. We only had one underpants incident with number 2s and she was mortified and it never happened again! My 3yo is just not interested in ditching nappies and only uses the toilet for the novelty value and to see Mummy do the happy dance ;).

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  28. We had the same problem with my daughter. We tried everything-EVERYTHING!! 2yrs of cleaning pooey undies (and then eventually giving up and just buying cheap pairs and throwing dirty ones away) she just worked it out. On her own. Frustrating but nothing we did helped and she sorted it out herself. I can't give you advice but I will say hang in there!!

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